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Double Eagles, St. Gaudens ($20 Saints) and $20 Libertys ($20 Libs), are the most popular of the old US gold coins. Unfortunately, $20 Saints and $20 Libs are also the most widely promoted gold coins, usually at
artificially inflated prices. Old US gold coins can be profitable, but only when purchased at the right price and time. This Web page details when and how to invest profitably in old US gold coins. |
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"Precious
metals have had value in all civilizations, have survived
all financial crises, and can be expected to do the same
in the future. However, it is to all investors' interests that they know
what they are doing before investing in precious
metals."
Bill Haynes
President
Certified Mint, Inc. |
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Does
your gold have to be reported?
NO!
Gold
purchases do not have to be reported. This
myth is so pervasive that
CMI feels
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See
Myths, Misunderstandings,
and Outright Lies to
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provide honest market evaluations; we recommend only those
precious metals investments that we believe will benefit
our clients. CMI
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highly-promoted numismatic coins whose gold content are
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Some precious metals firms foster the circulation of many
myths, misunderstandings, and outright lies about the purchase
and sale of precious metals. Generally, these misconceptions and
falsehoods promote the notion that the government may again call
in gold as it did in 1933 and that "reportable"
transactions are preludes to confiscation. By cultivating such
fears in investors, unscrupulous firms can sell high-priced (and
often overpriced) coins with greater margins of profit.
Investors who believe these stories invariably pay too much
or buy the wrong coins. After reading this Web page, no investor
need be taken advantage of.
Avoiding Confiscation
The most frequently used technique
to promote high-priced coins is to raise the issue of
confiscation. Many telemarketers tell investors that old U.S.
gold coins are not "subject to confiscation," leaving
the impression that modern gold bullion coins
are. Consequently, many investors buy old
U.S. gold coins at prices significantly higher than the
value of their gold content. The idea of buying
"non-confiscateable'' gold sounds like a powerful argument
but wilts under scrutiny.
Many precious metals firms maintain that old U.S. gold coins,
proof sets, and commemorative gold coins are
"collectibles" and would not be subject to another
gold recall. Some firms say that premiums of at least 15%
automatically make coins collectibles. Another notion holds that
coins one hundred years or older are antiques and therefore not
subject to confiscation. One large firm that sells rare coins
goes as far as to say:
Under current federal law, gold bullion can be confiscated
by the federal government in times of national crisis. As
collectibles, rare coins do not fall within the provisions
permitting confiscation.
No federal law or Treasury department regulation supports
these contentions.
The myth that specific types of gold coins are "not
confiscateable" stems from the Executive Order that
President Roosevelt issued in 1933 calling in gold. The
Executive Order exempted "gold coins having a recognized
special value to collectors of rare and unusual coins," but
it did not define special value or collector, and certainly not
collectibles. Nevertheless, telemarketers promoting old U.S.
gold coins perpetuate this myth because it makes easier the
selling of high-priced coins.
Just because Roosevelt exempted "gold coins having a
recognized special value" does not mean that any future
call-in would exempt collectibles. Roosevelt's Executive Order
would have no legal binding on another gold call-in. Besides, on
December 31, 1974, with Executive Order 11825, President Gerald
Ford repealed the Executive Order that Roosevelt used to call in
gold in 1933. This was necessary because on the same day
Congress restored Americans' right to own gold. Furthermore, in
1977 Congress removed the president's authority to regulate gold
transactions during a period of national emergency other than
war.
Even if a law did exempt certain coins from future
confiscation, the government could change that law. Sadly, the
government often simply ignores laws. Dealers who say they sell
"non-confiscateable" gold have no basis for making
such claims.
For further discussion of this matter, assume there were
another gold call-in. Would old U.S. gold coins, which make up
the bulk of the "non-confiscateable" market, be
exempted? Probably not because they are common coins. (The old
U.S. gold coins most often promoted are the $20
Libertys and the $20 St.
Gaudens, also known as Double
Eagles. A $10 coin is called an Eagle, a $5 coin a Half
Eagle, and a $2-1/2 coin a Quarter Eagle.)
Although Roosevelt's Executive Order required Americans to
turn in their gold coins and gold bullion, foreigners continued
to redeem paper dollars for gold until August 15, 1971, when
President Nixon closed the gold window. From the end of World
War II to 1971, our gold reserves were cut in half.
It is generally believed that all the gold coins surrendered
under Roosevelt's call-in were melted or refined into .999 fine
bullion bars. That was not the case. It was to the government's
advantage to give the foreigners gold coins instead of bullion
bars.
With the official price of gold at $35 an ounce, a foreign
bank presenting $35 million paper dollars received 1,000,000
ounces if the Treasury delivered gold bullion. However, when the
Treasury delivered gold coins with a face value of $35 million,
it delivered only 967,500 ounces, saving 32,500 ounces. Each $20
Liberty and St. Gaudens (Double Eagles) contains
.9675 ounce of gold. The smaller coins contain the same
proportions. Therefore, it was to the Treasury Department's
advantage to give out U.S. gold coins instead of bullion bars.
Additionally, before Roosevelt's call-in, millions of old U.S.
gold coins already had made their way to Europe.
So, in view of the government's policy of delivering
"confiscated" gold coins to foreign governments, how
can a promoter of old U.S. gold coins claim to be selling
"non-confiscateable" gold when the coins he delivers
may have been called in back in 1933?
Promoters of old U.S. gold coins rarely reveal the sources of
their coins. They foster the idea that the coins they sell
somehow survived the 1933 call-in. Probably, the coins being
promoted just arrived from Europe a few weeks earlier. Several
large numismatic wholesale firms have offices in Europe for
finding hoards of old U.S. coins. One firm advertises
"Shipments coming in from Europe daily." Another firm
boasts offices in Brussels, Paris, and Zurich.
As noted above, the premise of "non-confiscateable"
gold lies in Roosevelt's Executive Order that exempted
"gold coins having recognized special value to collectors
of rare and unusual coins." Are old U.S. gold coins
"rare and unusual" today? Not hardly.
Between 1850 and 1907, U.S. mints turned out over 100 million
$20 Libertys. Between 1908
and 1933, they coined some 65 million $20
St. Gaudens. Today, no one knows how many have survived, but
the number is undoubtedly in the tens of millions, with the bulk
of them residing in European bank vaults.
Because of all the old U.S. gold coins in Europe and because
of the huge premiums they carry, old U.S. coins are dangerous
investments at this time. If gold rallies, European banks may
see it as an opportunity to unload, causing old U.S. gold coins
to fall in price while gold goes up. For further discussion
about why old U.S. gold coins are overpriced, see Old
U.S. Gold Coins.
If gold fails to rally, the banks may fear gold will stay
down for a long time, prompting them to resume selling. This,
too, would cause the old U.S. gold coins to fall in price,
shrinking the premiums at which they sell over spot.
Since 1989, PCGS and NGC, the two major grading services,
have "slabbed" over two million coins rated MS-60 or
higher. Now, the two services are grading 200,000 to 300,000
coins a month. (See PCGS, NGC, and "Slabbed" Coins on
our Web page Old U.S. Gold Coins.)
Millions of lower-grade coins (VF through BU) do not even
warrant being submitted. Yet, they are sold as
"non-confiscateable" semi-numismatic coins. Low-grade
coins that have no real collector value are called
semi-numismatic. VF/XF common-date Double
Eagles are definitely semi-numismatic coins.
Add in the uncounted smaller denomination old gold coins ($10
Eagles, $5 Half Eagles, etc.) and the number of available old
U.S. gold coins grows even bigger. There is no way the old U.S.
gold coins being promoted as "non-confiscateable" have
a "recognized special value to collectors of rare and
unusual coins."
The concept of "non-confiscateable" gold is
counterfeit. The idea lives only because dealers continue to
push it for their own benefit. Investors who do not have the
facts are unable to know otherwise. Readers of this Web page,
however, need not be victims to the hype and promotion so
prevalent in the gold coin industry.
Investors wanting to buy gold should go with the bullion
coins: American Gold Eagles,
Maple
Leafs, or Krugerrands. These
coins move dollar for dollar with the world price of gold and
are easy to buy, sell, and trade. Additionally, tracking the
value of these coins is easy. No "expert" has to look
at them.
Avoid European Coins
Over the last few years, telemarketers have been importing
European bullion gold coins dated before 1933 and claiming they,
like old U.S. gold coins, would be legally beyond the reach of
the government in another recall. The imported coins most
commonly promoted as non-confiscateable
include:
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French Twenty Francs (both the Roosters and the
Angels);
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British Sovereigns (usually with the images of
Queen Victoria or Edward II or George V);
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Swiss Twenty Francs (also called Helvetias);
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Belgium Twenty Francs (a.k.a. King Leopolds);
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Swedish and Danish 10 Kroners (Mermaids);
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Swedish and Danish 20 Kroners;
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Dutch 10 Guilders.
Investors should avoid European coins. As noted above, the
notion of "non-confiscateable" coins has no merit, and
dealers promoting European coins do so because they provide
bigger profits. That's bigger profits for the dealers, not their
clients.
European coins are not worth the high prices promoters ask.
Regardless of the dates on them, they are not
"non-confiscateable." Additionally, they hold little,
if any, numismatic potential. It is a peculiarity of the coin
collecting that coins are prized by numismatists (coin
collectors) only in their countries of origin. Americans collect
U.S. coins; the British collect coins of Great Britain; the
Japanese collect Japanese coins, etc.
Furthermore, the European coins are often compared with old
U.S. gold coins, which can and do achieve premiums at times (See
Old U.S. Gold Coins). European
coins, as a rule, are simply bullion coins and will never attain
genuine numismatic premiums. Some of the coins have been around
for a hundred years and have always sold at only a few dollars
above the value of their gold content. That is why telemarketers
promote them. They buy the European coins near bullion prices
and mark them up, ensuring big profits for themselves.
Still, there are other reasons for not buying European coins,
even when you can get them at reasonable prices. First, they
contain unconventional amounts of gold, such as .1867 oz,
or .2354 oz, or .1947 oz. Americans prefer full
ounce coins, or fractions of ounces they easily understand, such
as 1/2-oz, 1/4-oz, or 1/10-oz.
Second, Americans prefer coins stamped in English. The
European coins, obviously, are stamped in the languages of their
countries of origin. But perhaps worse, the European coins do
not have their gold content stamped on them. If you have to use
such coins in an emergency, how are you going to convince
someone other than a coin dealer that the coins contain the gold
content you say?
Your best buys in fractional-ounce gold coins are American
Eagles, Canadian Maple Leafs,
or Krugerrands, although
fractional-ounce Krugerrands can be difficult to find at times.
These coins have their gold content stamped in English and come
in sizes Americans are used to dealing with. Always, these coins
are cheaper than promoted European coins. Even when you find
European coins at bullion prices, fractional-ounce Gold Eagles,
Maple Leafs, or Krugerrands are comparably priced. There are no
compelling reasons for Americans to buy European coins.
Americans should buy Gold Eagles, Maple Leafs, or Krugerrands.
Reportable Purchases
Often, promoters will claim that
the coins they offer are not subject to "reporting."
Such statements imply the government requires gold transactions
be reported. However, no government regulations require the
reporting of the purchases of any precious metals, per se. If
payment is made by cash greater than $10,000, however, it
becomes a "cash reporting transaction." It is not the
gold that the government wants reported but the cash. Such
reporting applies to all business transactions involving more
than $10,000 cash.
Regarding cash transactions, Official General Instructions
for IRS Form 8300 read: "Who Must File. - Each person
engaged in a trade or business who, during that trade or
business, receives more than $10,000 in cash in one transaction
or two or more related transactions must file Form 8300. Any
transactions conducted between a payer (or its agent) and the
recipient in a 24-hour period are related transactions.
This regulation applies to cash - greenbacks, paper money. It
does not apply to personal checks, wire transfers, or money
market withdrawals. When cashier's checks or money orders are
involved, cash reporting may be triggered.
Form 8300's General Instructions define as cash "a
cashier's check, bank draft, traveler's check, or money order
having a face amount of not more than $10,000." Using a
cashier's check less than $10,000 would be a "cash
transaction," but it would not be reportable because it is
less than $10,000. However, two cashier's checks, each less than
$10,000 but totaling more than $10,000 for a single purchase,
would be considered cash and subject to reporting.
Further clarification: If an investor makes a $15,000
investment in gold and pays with a single $15,000 cashier's
check, it is not reportable. If, however, he pays with two or
more cashier's checks each less than $10,000, the dealer would
be obligated to report.
Cash reporting requirements were not written specifically for
the precious metals industry but for all businesses. The
purchase of a car, boat, or jewelry, and payment with two
cashier's checks, each less than $10,000 but totaling more than
$10,000, would be a reportable transaction.
Another example: an investor agrees to buy precious metals
totaling more than $10,000, again say $15,000, and wants to make
payments with money from two accounts. If the investor withdraws
$8,000 from the first account and gets a cashier's check, and
then gets another cashier's check for $7,000 from the second
account, the transaction becomes reportable. A purchase of
$30,000 and payment with two $15,000 cashier's checks would not
be a reportable transaction. The significant amount is $10,000.
Personal checks or checks drawn on the payer's own account
are not considered cash. Form 8300's General Instructions read:
"Cash does not included a check drawn on the payer's own
account, such as a personal check, regardless of the amount.
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Related Transactions
Form 8300's General Instructions
say "Transactions are considered related even if they occur
over a period of more than twenty-four hours if the recipient
knows, or has reason to know, that each transaction is one of a
series of connected transactions." For example, if
an investor agrees to buy $20,000 in gold but makes installment
payments with cash in amounts less than $10,000, the purchase
would be reportable.
Bank Reporting
It is often erroneously thought
that banks report to the government all personal checks more
than $10,000. Banks do not. But, a cash transaction exceeding
$10,000 requires a bank to fill out and file a Cash Transaction
Report (CTR). A cash deposit more than $10,000 to any bank or
other financial institution account by an individual possibly
would be reported.
However, purchases of cashier’s checks with cash for amounts
$3,000 to $10,000 require banks to complete Monetary Instrument
Reports (MIRs). (Some banks call them Monetary Instrument Logs.)
MIRs are not filed with the government but are records that
enable banks to help comply with cash reporting requirements. It
is not clear when a MIR requires the completion and filing of a
CTR, but an individual regularly purchasing cashier’s checks
between $3,000 and $10,000 would probably be reported.
If a business reports a cash transaction, the customer will
know it. Form 8300 requires name, address, citizenship, and
social security number. It also asks for method of
identification, driver's license, passport, etc. Additionally,
Form 8300's General Instructions call for anyone filing a Form
8300 to "provide a written statement to each person named
in a required Form 8300 on or before January 31 of the year
following the calendar year in which the cash is received."
Finally, Form 8300 General Instructions has a box to be
marked if the transactions appear "suspicious." The
box can be marked for transactions less than $10,000 if the
recipient believes the purchaser is trying to avoid cash
reporting.
No one wants any red flags at the IRS. Unscrupulous dealers
know this and use it to avert clear thinking; they use the
threat of "reporting" to raise investor fear. This
enables them to sell overpriced coins. Investors justify higher
prices by thinking they are getting "non-reportable
gold." No investor need be taken advantage of this way.
Reportable Sales
Customer sales to dealers of
certain precious metals exceeding specific quantities call for
reporting to the IRS on 1099B forms. The 1099B forms are similar
to other 1099 forms taxpayers commonly receive; the
"B" means they have been issued by a business other
than a financial entity.
Reportable sales (again, customer sales to dealers) apply
to 1-oz Gold Maple Leafs, 1-oz Krugerrands, and 1-oz Mexican
Onzas in quantities of twenty-five or more in one transaction.
Reporting requirements do not apply to American
Gold Eagles, no matter the quantities. Furthermore,
reporting requirements do not apply to any fractional ounce gold
coins.
Only one common silver product is reportable when sold:
pre-1965 U.S. coins. The quantity that causes the filing of a
1099B, however, is not clear. The IRS bases its authority to
require reporting on CFTC-approved contracts that call for the
delivery of $10,000 face value. Consequently, many dealers do
not report sales of pre-1965 U.S. coins unless the sale totals
$10,000 face value; others report $1,000 sales.
Sales of American Silver
Eagles, privately-minted
Silver Eagles, and 100-oz silver bars are not reportable, no
matter the quantity. Other precious metals products are
reportable, but they are not covered here because the average
investor does not trade them.
Most investors have no first-hand knowledge of these matters;
consequently, when precious metals dealers talk about cash
reporting, 8300 forms, or 1099s, investors are unable to know
that they may not be hearing the whole story. Wanting to avoid
the government knowing about their precious metals investments,
many investors are delighted to learn that their purchases will
not be reported and end up buying overpriced coins.
As explained under "Reportable Purchases," no
precious metals purchases are reported unless cash reporting
thresholds are exceeded. Investors wanting to avoid reportable
sales should buy American Eagles.
The above discussions about cash reporting, IRS Form 8300, and
bank reporting are for editorial purposes only and should not be
relied on as definitive and final. Persons involved in cash
transactions should consult their attorney or accountant.
Investors wanting to buy gold should go with the bullion
coins: American Gold Eagles, Maple
Leafs, or Krugerrands. These
coins move dollar for dollar with the world price of gold and
are easy to buy, sell, and trade. Additionally, tracking the
value of these coins is easy. No "expert" has to look
at them.
Visit our Gold Bullion Coins page and
afterwards call CMI at 1-800-528-1380 to order, or to get any
points clarified. Or, visit our Web page Doing
Business with Certified Mint, Inc.
(For
a discussion as to why you should buy gold and silver, click
here.)
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